Former White House attorney Ty Cobb has respect for Robert Mueller, but he doesn’t think President Donald Trump will ever escape the special counsel’s grasp.
In an interview with ABC News podcast The Investigation, Cobb said that the president and his team will never be able to completely shut down investigations from Mueller and Democrats.
“It’s never going to be over,” Cobb said. “I mean, this is going to go through 2020. And if the president is reelected, it’ll go beyond that.”
Not a witch hunt?
President Trump has often described Mueller as the leader of a “witch hunt” against him, but Cobb said he doesn’t share that belief.
“I don’t feel the investigation is a witch hunt,” Cobb said bluntly.
Instead, Cobb described Mueller as a stand-up, professional guy who will eventually deliver a final report that, according to Cobb, will largely clear the president of the allegations against him.
“I think Bob Mueller’s an American hero,” Cobb said, touting Mueller’s status as a Vietnam veteran and his stellar reputation as a prosecutor. “I think the world of Bob Mueller. He is a very deliberate guy. But he’s also a class act. And a very justice-oriented person.”
With this in mind, Cobb said he advised the president to calmly cooperate with Mueller’s investigation — unlike others on the White House legal team. Cobb eventually left the White House after 10 months of clashing with fellow attorneys like John Dowd and Rudy Giuliani, who disagreed with his strategy of cooperation.
“I was the one that advised it. But the president did make the decision,” Cobb said of the Trump team’s choice to cooperate with the special counsel. “In my first nine-and-a-half months…I was able to prevent the president from going on the attack against Mueller. It wasn’t really until Dowd sent out a critical tweet of Mueller and Rudy joined the team that the president felt unleashed.”
On and on
Cobb went on to suggest that Mueller’s probe may be wrapping up: most of what the special counsel has found has already been revealed in the numerous sentencing memos and information-packed “speaking” indictments of various individuals, including Russian hackers and former campaign manager Paul Manafort — neither of whom said anything of significance about alleged Russian collusion, which was the basis of the investigation in the first place.
“There’s no link [between Russian hackers] to Trump or the campaign,” Cobb asserted. “The same thing with Manafort — they just filed an 800-page sentencing memorandum, and in 800 pages there’s no reference to collusion.”
Cobb didn’t give specifics on when Mueller’s investigation might end — but he also didn’t give a great prognosis.
“This is going to go through 2020. And if the president is reelected, it’ll go beyond that,” Cobb said. “All these people are hell bent on issuing a lot of subpoenas to get to the administration and perpetuate this investigation.”
Robert Mueller’s special counsel investigation may or may not be drawing near a conclusion, but that really doesn’t matter that much, according to Cobb. Democrats in Congress will simply pick up where Mueller left off — and they won’t stop until Trump is out of the Oval Office, one way or another.