Amid all of the hubbub over the Ukraine”scandal” that has gripped Washington D.C., it seems some Democrats are getting ahead of themselves.
South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, one of the many Democratic candidates vying to take on Trump in 2020, said Friday that he supports impeachment and if he becomes president, he would not pardon Trump.
Buttigieg: Yes on impeachment
The Texas Tribune reported that Buttigieg sat for an interview Friday with MSNBC host Stephanie Ruhle while participating in The Texas Tribune Festival.
Ruhle opened the interview by asking, to applause from the liberal-leaning audience, “Impeach or not to impeach?”
“Yes,” Buttigieg replied. “We’ve reached a point where the rule of law and our constitutional system requires holding this president accountable for what he’s done.”
“This is not just about this moment or about this president. This is about the integrity of the system,” the mayor added.
Later, Ruhle circled back to the issue of impeachment and asked Buttigieg if he would consider issuing a pardon for Trump — assuming Trump had been convicted and removed from office and the South Bend mayor had won the election to assume the office himself.
Buttigieg said he would not issue a pardon for Trump, adding, “It’s not about him. It’s about the presidency.”
“We have learned the hard way what happens when we’re deprived of a presidency, not just a president who agrees with me on policy but a president that your kids can look up to. And we need to demonstrate that that will never be allowed to happen again by showing that there are consequences,” Buttigieg said.
To be sure, there are a number of fairly big assumptions in this scenario — the House actually impeaches Trump, the Senate actually convicts, and Buttigieg actually wins both the Democratic nomination and general election.
Recent polls consistently show Buttigieg in fourth or fifth place, alternating with opponent Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA).
That said, it should be clear that, if Democrats prevail in the effort to railroad Trump out of office, there will be no mercy shown in the aftermath.