In a recent interview, former U.S. Attorney General William Barr seemingly turned on former President Donald Trump, at least regarding his thoughts on the former president’s repeated claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him due to alleged widespread voter fraud.
According to The Blaze, at one point during a recent interview with ABC News anchor Jonathan Karl, Barr referred to Trump’s claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election as “bull****.”
Barr holds nothing back
The former AG’s interview, which was conducted by Karl for a book about the 2020 presidential election he’s set to release, was published over the weekend by The Atlantic, and as a result, quickly made headlines as it marked the first time Barr used disparaging language to describe his former boss.
In the interview, Barr spoke about the circumstances surrounding the Department of Justice (DOJ) investigation that he authorized with regard to investigating allegations of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election. Barr told Karl that throughout the process, in his mind he believed that “it was highly unlikely that evidence existed that would tip the scales in the election.”
“My attitude was: It was put-up or shut-up time,” Barr explained. “If there was evidence of fraud, I had no motive to suppress it. But my suspicion all the way along was that there was nothing there. It was all bull****.”
Barr went on to say that he and the DOJ “realized from the beginning” that Trump’s claims of voter fraud, including claims about “rigged” voting machines in several key swing states, were “just bull****.”
“It’s a counting machine, and they save everything that was counted,” Barr said. “So you just reconcile the two. There had been no discrepancy reported anywhere, and I’m still not aware of any discrepancy.”
“No self-respecting lawyer”
Barr added that after the investigation had concluded, Trump confronted him for stating publicly that his repeated claims of voter and ballot fraud could not be substantiated by evidence.
Barr also revealed that during that particular exchange, he told Trump that “no self-respecting lawyer” would defend such claims, providing a look into just how intense the subject had become within the ranks of the Trump administration.
“You know, you only have five weeks, Mr. President, after an election to make legal challenges,” Barr said. “This would have taken a crackerjack team with a really coherent and disciplined strategy. Instead, you have a clown show. No self-respecting lawyer is going anywhere near it. It’s just a joke. That’s why you are where you are.”
It was also revealed during the former AG’s interview that then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) had urged Barr — on several occasions — to publicly reject Trump’s voter and ballot fraud claims.
At the conclusion of the DOJ’s investigation, according to the Associated Press, Barr publicly stated, “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election.” He would ultimately depart from the Trump administration before the end of Trump’s term.